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	<title>Comments on: Obsessive Consumers &#8211; We are Addicts</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/12/obsessive-consumers-we-are-addicts/comment-page-1/#comment-2340</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flendolyn and Melwyn,

What you&#039;ve shown is that it&#039;s a problem that is only obvious to us (usually) when we have a crisis or change of situation that removes the ability to immediately feed that little monster that wants us to spend.

My guess is that there are way more addicts out there, it&#039;s just that they don&#039;t know it because they&#039;ve never faced a situation where they&#039;ve had to actually face the little monster.

Flendolyn, it doesn&#039;t suprise me that it&#039;s harder to give up than smoking. Smoking is largely an internal fight for many now, as opposed to the spending addiction which is simply a part of our culture. We&#039;re bombarded with messages to buy all the time. Our culture necessitates the use of money through purchases both big and small. To be western is to consume... we&#039;re raised to do it right from the word &quot;go&quot;. It&#039;s wired into us through messages before we can even talk, whereas things like smoking and other addictive substances are generally introduced later in life.

By fighting the spend, we&#039;re fighting something that is part of the western citizens cultural hard-wiring. That&#039;s a tough fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flendolyn and Melwyn,</p>
<p>What you&#8217;ve shown is that it&#8217;s a problem that is only obvious to us (usually) when we have a crisis or change of situation that removes the ability to immediately feed that little monster that wants us to spend.</p>
<p>My guess is that there are way more addicts out there, it&#8217;s just that they don&#8217;t know it because they&#8217;ve never faced a situation where they&#8217;ve had to actually face the little monster.</p>
<p>Flendolyn, it doesn&#8217;t suprise me that it&#8217;s harder to give up than smoking. Smoking is largely an internal fight for many now, as opposed to the spending addiction which is simply a part of our culture. We&#8217;re bombarded with messages to buy all the time. Our culture necessitates the use of money through purchases both big and small. To be western is to consume&#8230; we&#8217;re raised to do it right from the word &#8220;go&#8221;. It&#8217;s wired into us through messages before we can even talk, whereas things like smoking and other addictive substances are generally introduced later in life.</p>
<p>By fighting the spend, we&#8217;re fighting something that is part of the western citizens cultural hard-wiring. That&#8217;s a tough fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Melwyn Le Comte</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/12/obsessive-consumers-we-are-addicts/comment-page-1/#comment-2339</link>
		<dc:creator>Melwyn Le Comte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I know where you are coming from on that.  I went from being a single teacher on a good income living at home( admittedly I did save a heap of money )who travelled to Europe and Canada and didn&#039;t think too hard about spending the money on that to a married lady with a mortgage - talk about a reality check!!  I&#039;m not complaining cos my hubby and I are buying our house which is really exciting and a tangible reward for our saving, but it did require a major attitude shift for me.  I must say I am enjoying op shop hunts now for little things we might need - eg clothes etc...a toothbrush holder for 99cents!! What a bargain.  I find myself reliving my student days of opshop clothing and frugal living and find I don&#039;t really mind that much.  Darrien and I also have our &quot;funny money&quot; that we get to spend each week which I take out in cash and once it is gone it is GONE!!  That really does help to reign in the little spends that can add up and is helping us to achieve our long term goal of paying our mortgage off faster that the set term.  YAY!!  It is really hard though when we get bombarded with messages to spend and that this equates with happiness.  I find that buying &quot;things&quot; and &quot;stuff&quot; does not really make me happy in the long term but it does seem we are wired to get that fix from time to time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I know where you are coming from on that.  I went from being a single teacher on a good income living at home( admittedly I did save a heap of money )who travelled to Europe and Canada and didn&#8217;t think too hard about spending the money on that to a married lady with a mortgage &#8211; talk about a reality check!!  I&#8217;m not complaining cos my hubby and I are buying our house which is really exciting and a tangible reward for our saving, but it did require a major attitude shift for me.  I must say I am enjoying op shop hunts now for little things we might need &#8211; eg clothes etc&#8230;a toothbrush holder for 99cents!! What a bargain.  I find myself reliving my student days of opshop clothing and frugal living and find I don&#8217;t really mind that much.  Darrien and I also have our &#8220;funny money&#8221; that we get to spend each week which I take out in cash and once it is gone it is GONE!!  That really does help to reign in the little spends that can add up and is helping us to achieve our long term goal of paying our mortgage off faster that the set term.  YAY!!  It is really hard though when we get bombarded with messages to spend and that this equates with happiness.  I find that buying &#8220;things&#8221; and &#8220;stuff&#8221; does not really make me happy in the long term but it does seem we are wired to get that fix from time to time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Flendolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flendolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struggling big time with this at the moment.  After taking a substantial pay cut and losing the luxury of a company car, not adjusting my budget meant my debt was quickly increasing.  All the little purchases (lunch usually, the odd decaf soy latte) I make have added up to a substantial amount of debt, and I didn&#039;t even notice.  Now that I&#039;m trying to reign things in I&#039;ve realised just how much of an addiction it is.  I spend to feel better.  I spend when I&#039;m bored.  I spend if life&#039;s not going my way.  I spend if I&#039;m happy &amp; celebrating.  The really scary thing is, it&#039;s proving more difficult to quit spending than it was to quit cigarettes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struggling big time with this at the moment.  After taking a substantial pay cut and losing the luxury of a company car, not adjusting my budget meant my debt was quickly increasing.  All the little purchases (lunch usually, the odd decaf soy latte) I make have added up to a substantial amount of debt, and I didn&#8217;t even notice.  Now that I&#8217;m trying to reign things in I&#8217;ve realised just how much of an addiction it is.  I spend to feel better.  I spend when I&#8217;m bored.  I spend if life&#8217;s not going my way.  I spend if I&#8217;m happy &amp; celebrating.  The really scary thing is, it&#8217;s proving more difficult to quit spending than it was to quit cigarettes.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do the weekly allowance as well... the problem is, I keep going into negatives... and it&#039;s just an accumulation of lots of little spends. Using cash would actually help me as it would impose a limit.

I can see how your rating system would work for you and it&#039;s one I&#039;ll certainly use when looking at larger items.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do the weekly allowance as well&#8230; the problem is, I keep going into negatives&#8230; and it&#8217;s just an accumulation of lots of little spends. Using cash would actually help me as it would impose a limit.</p>
<p>I can see how your rating system would work for you and it&#8217;s one I&#8217;ll certainly use when looking at larger items.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Apart from the laptop, I haven’t acquired a gadget or big ticket item in a long time. I don’t have any compulsion around big spends.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s good. One unnecessary PS3 will undo abstaining from 250 unnecessary coffees! ;)

My problem is with the big things. I&#039;m pretty tight on treats but have strong urges to shell out $26k for a not-really-necessary new car. I have to rationalise to stop these kinds of purchases. Not carrying around cash helps me with the small items.

Also, (and this probably sounds really anally retentive) my wife and I give ourselves a weekly allowance that has to cover clothing, beer, golf membership, etc, etc. That helps reign in the spending a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Apart from the laptop, I haven’t acquired a gadget or big ticket item in a long time. I don’t have any compulsion around big spends.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s good. One unnecessary PS3 will undo abstaining from 250 unnecessary coffees! <img src='http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My problem is with the big things. I&#8217;m pretty tight on treats but have strong urges to shell out $26k for a not-really-necessary new car. I have to rationalise to stop these kinds of purchases. Not carrying around cash helps me with the small items.</p>
<p>Also, (and this probably sounds really anally retentive) my wife and I give ourselves a weekly allowance that has to cover clothing, beer, golf membership, etc, etc. That helps reign in the spending a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian, great to hear from you.

I&#039;ve got no issue when it come to refraining from spending on gadgets... and yes, the laptop is as useful as I thought it would be... though I don&#039;t have the Mac. :) I&#039;m using it at work at the moment since my desktop gave up the ghost... they haven&#039;t been able to replace it yet.

Apart from the laptop, I haven&#039;t acquired a gadget or big ticket item in a long time. I don&#039;t have any compulsion around big spends.

My issue is more the day to day spend on small things - that daily feeding of obsessive consumption as opposed to the intermittent desire for expensive items.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian, great to hear from you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got no issue when it come to refraining from spending on gadgets&#8230; and yes, the laptop is as useful as I thought it would be&#8230; though I don&#8217;t have the Mac. <img src='http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m using it at work at the moment since my desktop gave up the ghost&#8230; they haven&#8217;t been able to replace it yet.</p>
<p>Apart from the laptop, I haven&#8217;t acquired a gadget or big ticket item in a long time. I don&#8217;t have any compulsion around big spends.</p>
<p>My issue is more the day to day spend on small things &#8211; that daily feeding of obsessive consumption as opposed to the intermittent desire for expensive items.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale&#039;s admission:  It is a lot easier to rant and rave about over consumption than to actually spend less on things you don&#039;t need.  I take no small amount of pride in the fact that I buy mostly (probably 90% or more?) used clothes, and that Di and I don&#039;t feel the need to have nice/new this-and-that; but I conveniently forget how often I eat out at cafe&#039;s &amp; how many coffee&#039;s I get...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale&#8217;s admission:  It is a lot easier to rant and rave about over consumption than to actually spend less on things you don&#8217;t need.  I take no small amount of pride in the fact that I buy mostly (probably 90% or more?) used clothes, and that Di and I don&#8217;t feel the need to have nice/new this-and-that; but I conveniently forget how often I eat out at cafe&#8217;s &amp; how many coffee&#8217;s I get&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a &lt;a href=&quot;http://fritchie.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/i-want-a-macbook/#comment-7365&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;previous conversation&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I learnt a valuable life lesson recently. I was told that when I really wanted to buy something I should write down how much I think I’d still be enjoying it (perhaps on a scale of 1 to 10) in two month’s time. And then go ahead and buy what it was I wanted and revisit how I actually feel after two months.

I’ve done this now on a couple of recent gadget purchases and have to admit that the difference between what I perceive my enjoyment will be and what it actually is is around 4-5 points. Nowadays I’m trying to mentally pre-adjust before deciding to rush out to get that gizmo-gadget that I really MUST have.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really, try it sometime. It&#039;s a great way of circumventing that all-too-human shortsighted lust for goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a <a href="http://fritchie.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/i-want-a-macbook/#comment-7365" rel="nofollow">previous conversation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I learnt a valuable life lesson recently. I was told that when I really wanted to buy something I should write down how much I think I’d still be enjoying it (perhaps on a scale of 1 to 10) in two month’s time. And then go ahead and buy what it was I wanted and revisit how I actually feel after two months.</p>
<p>I’ve done this now on a couple of recent gadget purchases and have to admit that the difference between what I perceive my enjoyment will be and what it actually is is around 4-5 points. Nowadays I’m trying to mentally pre-adjust before deciding to rush out to get that gizmo-gadget that I really MUST have.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really, try it sometime. It&#8217;s a great way of circumventing that all-too-human shortsighted lust for goods.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear you&#039;re a thrifty person, Benjamin.

I don&#039;t see giving to aid agencies as the same thing as purchasing... one is about getting stuff for one&#039;s self, the other is working towards helping others.

This isn&#039;t about the broad topic of simply using money, it&#039;s about consuming and using money to that end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear you&#8217;re a thrifty person, Benjamin.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see giving to aid agencies as the same thing as purchasing&#8230; one is about getting stuff for one&#8217;s self, the other is working towards helping others.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about the broad topic of simply using money, it&#8217;s about consuming and using money to that end.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin de Geest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin de Geest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally understand this. I have always been a thrifty person myself so probably struggle a bit less.

But I have been cutting down on things I don&#039;t really need. 

What about when we have an employment shortage for aid agencies because too many people are giving haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally understand this. I have always been a thrifty person myself so probably struggle a bit less.</p>
<p>But I have been cutting down on things I don&#8217;t really need. </p>
<p>What about when we have an employment shortage for aid agencies because too many people are giving haha</p>
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