The only thing those documents act as a roadmap for is anyone wanting to study American history. Each of them has pluses and minuses… and let’s not forget that they are intimately tied to specific circumstances that do not necessarily relate to anyone/thing/nation outside of the U.S.

Also, the U.S, contrary to what many American Christian idealists like to assume, has a dark and checkered history that is not free of some rather large blemishes… as with any nation state. To hold it up as some sort of idylic representation of Christianity in operation is idolatrous. The U.S is not the greatest nation on earth, nor is it an ideal representation of Christianity – it is simply another representation of human empire building. Granted, as with many nations, there is much to be celebrated about the U.S, but in the same breath there is also much to be challenged.

Our Nation has been guided by the Providence of the Sovereign God of the Universe. This nation is the only government that has not changed forms of government. The Mayflower Compact, the Monroe Doctrine, The United States Constitution, and The Bible are interwoven with each other.
They are a road map for all those that choose to follow. How will you use your free will? Jesus says; “To lose is to gain”.
1 John 4: “Perfect Love casts out fear”

ummmmmmmm…. what?

(imagine that said as a confused query)

This nation is the only government that has not changed forms of government.

You may want to study the rest of the world a little more before making such assertions… and you might not want to confuse your terms. Your nation is not a government, though is has a body that governs it (the government).

Oh, and as a quick note, I’m not American, I am a New Zealander, so there is no “our” in this. You seem to have assumed that this blog is American… it is not. It’s a good thing you mentioned the American Constitution and other things related to American history otherwise no-one would have known which country you were talking about.

This is positive proof of ancestral land grant of the land of Palestine from the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Hamas: Read our lips – we don’t accept Israel!

For those who misinterpreted his interview with The New York Times last week, Hamas leader Khaled Mashal on Saturday clarified that he never said he supports the two-state solution for ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Mashal told Germany’s DPA news services the he and Hamas categorically reject any solution to the conflict that does not end with Israel’s destruction.

He pointed out that he told the Times that he agreed to a 10-year truce in exchange for the creation of a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria, but gave no guarantee that the war to extend “Palestine” into the rest of Israel wouldn’t resume after that.

The Times and many other news outlets covered the interview as though Hamas had finally come on board with the terms of the land-for-peace process, indirectly suggesting that the only obstacle remaining to peace was Israeli intransigence.

In related news, a Hamas spokesman told the Bethlehem-based Ma’an news agency last week that his group had not deployed security force to prevent the launching of rockets from Gaza into Israel.

The spokesman said that Israeli reports that the group was preventing rocket attacks on the Jewish state were lies meant to tarnish Hamas’ reputation.

So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas. ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’

NAS©
“And he called ten of his slaves, and gave them ten minas and said to them, ‘Do business with this until I come back.

Geneva Study Bible

{5} And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

(5) There are three sorts of men in the Church: the one sort fall from Christ whom they do not see; the other, according to their God given position, bestow the gifts which they have received from God to his glory, with great pains and diligence; the third live idly and do no good. As for the first, the Lord when he comes will justly punish them in his time; the second he will bless according to the pains which they have taken; and as for the slothful and idle persons, he will punish them like the first.

The right of representation and self-determination was one of the primary reasons for our Constitution. All our founders were ministers of the Word of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Word is the proven absolute truth. The standards the founders set in place were not there own but inspired by the cohesive gospel truth. The Bible is proven to be truth through scripture interrelated by each of the 66 books of the Holy Scriptures. Our Nation has been guided by the Providence of the Sovereign God of the Universe. This nation is the only government that has not changed forms of government. The Mayflower Compact, the Monroe Doctrine, The United States Constitution, and The Bible are interwoven with each other.
They are a road map for all those that choose to follow. How will you use your free will? Jesus says; “To lose is to gain”.
1 John 4: “Perfect Love casts out fear”

The Tea Party Movement is no different than the American Revolution, the Christian Revival Movements of 1735-42, The Prayer Movement of 1857, and 1900; that is seen as The Holy Spirit enveloping God’s believing creation to awaken his children to the truth.
God Bless You

Thanks for stopping by and commenting. It would be interesting to hear more of your story sometime.

Good questions. I may try and write a response some time.

Thanks,Saheer

“…violent rhetoric from some sectors of the other side to demonize an entire population.“…

That sector is the democratically elected Government which represent the population at this present time. Here is a charming quote from the Iranian President Machmoud Achmedinejad who said that the State of Israel “is a stinking corpse that is destined to disappear. Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken. Today the reason for the Zionist regime’s existence is questioned. And this regime is on its way to annihilation.” He further stated: “Israel has reached the end like a dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese in the second Lebanon war of 2006.” We should take the words of Achmedinejad seriously. Many people never took the words of Adolf Hitler seriously. He did exactly what he said he would do to the letter. To support Israel does not mean that I do not support the Palestinian Christians or indeed any Palestinians that desire true peace. In the same way there were many Germans that bucked the trend and helped the Jews during the holocaust.

I think that the way the surrounding nations and Palestinian Government are presently referring to Israel is relevant. Peace is not what they want and they have made that very clear.

Muslims are in a never–ending conflict with the state of Israel because they believe that the land belongs to Islam and that the holy mosque must be kept pure. The results of these beliefs are that no peace negotiation will be acceptable and that Israel must be destroyed.

As the Covenant of the Hamas states:

Palestine is an Islamic land… Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.
-Article 11

The reason that I’m responding is because you say Frank that “…when I approach the situation, my Christian faith and position as a Christian Minister is one large part of me that informs my approach to the problem…”

That is good as this is not a political problem, from the Muslim point of view this is a religious problem.

I’m not too sure when replacement theologists believe that the everlasting covenant that was promised through Issac (not Ishmael), finished. Interestingly enough the Hebrew word used “Olam” (everlasting, eternal) is also used in the New Testament to describe eternal life “Chayei Olam” Do
you mean to tell me that God has been fooling Christians all these years and in fact they do not have Eternal Life, they have transient life, temporal life, and age lasting life?

Esther:

No, the Church will not be complete before the salvation of Israel. Romans 11:12 speaks of Israel’s fullness and Romans 11:25, the fullness of the gentiles. Just as Israel provided the foundation members and apostles which founded the church, so Israel will be the fullness of the Church.

Like Peter said “One final thought, go back and read scripture, turn your back on Israel and maybe you will be turning your back on God Himself!”

Ezekiel 36:22

“’This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name,”…

As you probably know Islam’s sixth pillar of wisdom is Jihad which demands through often violent means that the world should submit to Allah and the Islamic religion.
Israel’s need to defend itself has not simply come about because of Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians.
For Islam any territory which it once held but now does not (such as Israel) is a slap in the face of Allah.

Maybe in a perfect world Israel would not respond with violence or violent rhetoric and I get your point but that is just a side issue.

If there is a move to write the Jews out of history and out of the area (and loads of people including Palestinians have also denied the holocaust contrary to what you said in your original post), I would also wonder what else in the media is biased.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746) – “[it is] obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory… Whether the purpose is war, settling a disagreement, or gaining the sympathy of a victim legally entitled to retaliate… it is not unlawful to lie when any of these aims can only be attained through lying. But is is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression…”

When I mention the bias of World Net Daily I am being consistent with the expression of that frustration.

I am not at all denying, and never have, that ill conceived, violent, problematic sentiment has been expressed from the side of the Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations. I am pointing out that both sides are guilty of this – a point that falls on deaf ears when speaking to many evangelicals who simply seek to vindicate Israel while demonizing the opposition.

David’s quotes may seem like a breath of fresh air to your ears, but they only further cement the point I have been making all along.

Some seem very willing to point out and engage the violent rhetoric coming from Palestinians who are being reactive, yet fobbed off and have given no attention whatsoever to the violent Zionist rhetoric I pointed out early in this conversation. That too, further cements the double standard I have been giving attention to – the glorification of one side, whose evils are conveniently swept under the carpet, while we use the violent rhetoric from some sectors of the other side to demonize an entire population.

May peace be our aim and as we pray for peace and work towards it, may our eyes not be blinded to the humanity (both good and bad) of any party involved.

For what it’s worth, well before I wrote this article I was aware of the conversion of the young man from Hamas and I was aware of a sentiment trying to deny any Jewish connection to temple mount.

“We must not forget that (Jesus) Messiah, may peace be upon him, is Palestinian, the son the Mary the Palestinian, who is sanctified by hundreds of millions of believers in this world.”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, November 18, 2005]

“The Palestinian Galilee village of Kfar Kana takes pride in the fact that in [the village] the Palestinian Messiah succeeded to turn water into wine.”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, December 14, 2004]

“It was quite natural that the Palestinians rose to save their sanctuaries [in Nazareth] without anyone thinking there is a difference between a Christian and a Muslim… since in the Palestinian situation, the lord Messiah [Jesus] and his mother [Mary] are both Galileans and Palestinians …”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 9, 2006]

Hilary while I don’t know what film was played at your collage but most Christians aren’t trying to incite violence or religious hatred but are trying to cause people to be aware of the realities behind Islam that are often covered up. There are a number of myths and lies about Islam that only too many people want to believe.
I think we should pray for them and that the Holy Spirit will move amongst them, we know that they are very precious to God and also remember that Jesus died for us while we were yet sinners.

David your comments are like a breath of fresh air.
Well, Jesus promised us that persecution was coming and maybe that will wake up the church, what do you think?