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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/09/shopping-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those interested in looking at the differences between the Fairtrade Foundation (and fair trade in general) and the Rainforest Alliance, here are two articles comparing the two:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/nov/24/foodanddrink.shopping1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Guardian UK&lt;/a&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tradeaid.org.nz/Fair%20Trade/FAQs/Rainforest%20Alliance%20vs%20fair%20trade&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trade Aid&lt;/a&gt;


They both have their pros and cons and Rainforest Alliance certification is better than nothing, but I would still put the Fairtrade Foundation ahead of it easily.

McCafe could do a lot better in my opinion as I think they have taken the cheap option to appease a public they believe want to be more ethical but may not research the ins and outs of the certification. It&#039;s all about awareness and then acting on what we know and value.

On this topic, I have been happy to see BP take up Fairtrade certification on the coffee they use in their Wild Bean Cafes.

There is another method that can be mentioned here as well - direct trade - where coffee suppliers work directly with co-ops to bring a product that has been purchased directly at a good price. This can involve a need for more direct questioning of how a product was sourced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in looking at the differences between the Fairtrade Foundation (and fair trade in general) and the Rainforest Alliance, here are two articles comparing the two:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/nov/24/foodanddrink.shopping1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Guardian UK</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tradeaid.org.nz/Fair%20Trade/FAQs/Rainforest%20Alliance%20vs%20fair%20trade" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Trade Aid</a></p>
<p>They both have their pros and cons and Rainforest Alliance certification is better than nothing, but I would still put the Fairtrade Foundation ahead of it easily.</p>
<p>McCafe could do a lot better in my opinion as I think they have taken the cheap option to appease a public they believe want to be more ethical but may not research the ins and outs of the certification. It&#8217;s all about awareness and then acting on what we know and value.</p>
<p>On this topic, I have been happy to see BP take up Fairtrade certification on the coffee they use in their Wild Bean Cafes.</p>
<p>There is another method that can be mentioned here as well &#8211; direct trade &#8211; where coffee suppliers work directly with co-ops to bring a product that has been purchased directly at a good price. This can involve a need for more direct questioning of how a product was sourced.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/09/shopping-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts Rachel.

I don&#039;t know enough about the diamond trade to say much there, but I like your question about &#039;labels&#039; that relate to what we&#039;re talking about.

It comes down to research and knowing what the standards and processes are for the different labels.

There are no regulations around the use of such certifications except use of such labels where permission has not been given by the governing body of that certification standard to use its logo.

The one being used by McCafe is an interesting one. Essentially it is an environmental regulator, not a trade regulator. It provides no guarantees on what is being paid to growers of the product and only a percentage (30% I think) of the sold product needs to meet the requirements of the certificatoin. That means that if one were to buy a bag of coffee beans using the label used by McCafe, only 30% of those beans need to meet the requirements - thus you have no guarantees on how the other 70% have been produced.

The label in question is the Rainforest Alliance Certification.

Here are two places to check it out:
http://www.rainforest-alliance.org/certification.cfm?id=main

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainforest_Alliance

The best thing to do is find valid criticisms and decide if you can live with those criticisms. If not, boycotting the product may be a valid form of shopping activism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts Rachel.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know enough about the diamond trade to say much there, but I like your question about &#8216;labels&#8217; that relate to what we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>It comes down to research and knowing what the standards and processes are for the different labels.</p>
<p>There are no regulations around the use of such certifications except use of such labels where permission has not been given by the governing body of that certification standard to use its logo.</p>
<p>The one being used by McCafe is an interesting one. Essentially it is an environmental regulator, not a trade regulator. It provides no guarantees on what is being paid to growers of the product and only a percentage (30% I think) of the sold product needs to meet the requirements of the certificatoin. That means that if one were to buy a bag of coffee beans using the label used by McCafe, only 30% of those beans need to meet the requirements &#8211; thus you have no guarantees on how the other 70% have been produced.</p>
<p>The label in question is the Rainforest Alliance Certification.</p>
<p>Here are two places to check it out:<br />
<a href="http://www.rainforest-alliance.org/certification.cfm?id=main" rel="nofollow">http://www.rainforest-alliance.org/certification.cfm?id=main</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainforest_Alliance" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainforest_Alliance</a></p>
<p>The best thing to do is find valid criticisms and decide if you can live with those criticisms. If not, boycotting the product may be a valid form of shopping activism.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/09/shopping-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops - meant Fairtrade of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8211; meant Fairtrade of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/09/shopping-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, saw blood diamond and still haven&#039;t recovered from the opening scenes.  
One issue I have with diamonds, is that even if they aren&#039;t gained from conflict areas - buying them promotes buying diamonds, which encourages the industry (the good and not so good sides of it).  Mind you, perhaps buying cultured diamonds does the same thing.  Perhaps even wearing mine does the same thing.  
I&#039;d be interested to know how we REALLY know if things are freetrade.  The logo can mean different things with different products.  For example - the recent McCafe ads about their coffee.  Is it &#039;fair trade&#039;, &#039;relationship coffee&#039;, or something else?  What regulations are there on using these labels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, saw blood diamond and still haven&#8217;t recovered from the opening scenes.<br />
One issue I have with diamonds, is that even if they aren&#8217;t gained from conflict areas &#8211; buying them promotes buying diamonds, which encourages the industry (the good and not so good sides of it).  Mind you, perhaps buying cultured diamonds does the same thing.  Perhaps even wearing mine does the same thing.<br />
I&#8217;d be interested to know how we REALLY know if things are freetrade.  The logo can mean different things with different products.  For example &#8211; the recent McCafe ads about their coffee.  Is it &#8216;fair trade&#8217;, &#8216;relationship coffee&#8217;, or something else?  What regulations are there on using these labels?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Scarborough Fair make good chocolate.

The diamond issue is an interesting one, because of course, not all diamonds are unethically gained, but it can be a tricky process trying to work out whether or not the diamond being purchased is a ‘conflict’ diamond.

Have you seen the movie, Blood Diamond?

Here is some interesting information from the UN, on conflict diamonds:
http://www.un.org/peace/africa/Diamond.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Scarborough Fair make good chocolate.</p>
<p>The diamond issue is an interesting one, because of course, not all diamonds are unethically gained, but it can be a tricky process trying to work out whether or not the diamond being purchased is a ‘conflict’ diamond.</p>
<p>Have you seen the movie, Blood Diamond?</p>
<p>Here is some interesting information from the UN, on conflict diamonds:<br />
<a href="http://www.un.org/peace/africa/Diamond.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.un.org/peace/africa/Diamond.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.humanitarianchronicle.com/2008/09/shopping-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loving the subversiveness of the term!  After recently hearing Steve Chalke (I think?) talk about the human traffiking involved in the chocolate trade I switched to Fairtrade chocolate.  Not only do I get to feel good about what I purchased, but the chocolate is actually ridiculously nice!  (Scarborough Fair if you&#039;re looking to buy some - silky smooth, velvety goodness).  
Have been thinking about the whole diamond issue too - not quite enough to make me take my diamonds off, but have decided not to purchase any (not that difficult when you can&#039;t afford them anyway).  It amazes me that we value something that is in some areas causing great harm to people, when the cultured version is cheaper, more ethical (I think - please correct me if I&#039;m wrong) and also flawless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving the subversiveness of the term!  After recently hearing Steve Chalke (I think?) talk about the human traffiking involved in the chocolate trade I switched to Fairtrade chocolate.  Not only do I get to feel good about what I purchased, but the chocolate is actually ridiculously nice!  (Scarborough Fair if you&#8217;re looking to buy some &#8211; silky smooth, velvety goodness).<br />
Have been thinking about the whole diamond issue too &#8211; not quite enough to make me take my diamonds off, but have decided not to purchase any (not that difficult when you can&#8217;t afford them anyway).  It amazes me that we value something that is in some areas causing great harm to people, when the cultured version is cheaper, more ethical (I think &#8211; please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) and also flawless!</p>
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